Hi Stephen P. King No, the 3p view is what is there then, or there-then. Anything objective, such as some algorithm, could be spoke of as within the 3p.
The 1p view is subjective (here, now or here-now). Thus the buddhists, yogis and mystics advise us to be "here now". Buddhists I think call that mindfulness. Leibniz treats 1p in a somewhat more complicated way as actually being objective, not only in the form of snapshots, but as snapshots taken from all the other monads in the universe, ie "perceptions". Leibniz also speaks of perceptions of the perceptions as "apperceptions", but I have not completely figured these out. The bottom line is that the apperceptions are what we "normally" see and identify of as actual in the usual sense. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 11/5/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-11-04, 16:11:44 Subject: Re: Communicability On 11/4/2012 11:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> The body problem *is* the result, and does constitute the conceptual >>> explantion of why we believe in bodies, despite the lack of it in >>> the ontology. >> >> Well, do you want this problem to be solvable? > > Sure. And AUDA is a beginning of the solution, in a manner which makes > possible to distinguish precisely the difference between > "terrestrial/objective" and "divine/subjective", that the the many 1p > and 3p views. Dear Bruno, But there is no an absolute 3p view! Such would be the 'view' of God and the Kolmogorov minimum algorithm that specified it would be God's name! -- Onward! Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.