Hi Stephen P. King  

The monads are not completely disconnected:  

1) They are connected nonlocally and instantly through the 
Supreme Monad, since they commune with the SM 
and thus with each other as well. The communion of the saints
as it says in one of the creeds. So there is some limited,
distorted telepathy and imperfect mental and emotional 
intermingling of feelings and ideas possible, depending on 
an individual's sensitiveness and clarity 
of vision. The SM sees all with perfect vision.  

2) Each monad contains the instantly updated information in all of the 
other monads in the universe-- but from his own perspective. 

3) Leibniz says that the monads, through their appetities and 
perceptions, are "laden with the past and pregnant with the future." 
Memory and some foresight or sense of the future. 

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 

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Time: 2012-11-08, 07:54:18 
Subject: Re: Leibniz: Reality as Dust 

On 11/8/2012 6:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 

Hi Stephen P. King   

Time and space don't exist as substances so 
they don't influence the monads, which as you say  
are eternal. Further, there is no "substance space". 
So the monads are not organized in any way. 
The monads can be thought of as a collection 
of an infinite number of mathematical points. 

>From dust we come and to dust we shall return.   

Hi Roger, 

    The absolute disconnection of the monads is what makes them a 'dust'. This 
is exactly what is a Stone space - the dual to a Boolean algebra. ;-) The idea 
is that any one monad has as its image of other monads the vision of a 
mathematical point. This fits the idea of that the classical universe is "atoms 
in a void" as taught by Democritus. 

    What Craig and I are proposing is to add time to this idea. The evolution 
of the dust from one configuration to another is the arrow of time. Switching 
to the dual, we see teh evolution of Boolean algebras, whose arrow is the 
entailment of one state by all previous states. These two arrows face in 
opposite directions 

... A => A'     Stone space 
    |       | 
....A*<=A*'  Boolean algebra 

    The duals aspects of each monad evolve in opposite directions.  

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen  

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Subject: Re: Communicability  

On 11/7/2012 11:48 AM, Roger Clough wrote:  

Hi Stephen P. King  

That sounds like Leibniz. Each monad contains the  
views of all of the other monads in order to see  
the whole, not from just one perspective.  

Hi Roger,  

     Yes, and that is why I like the idea of a Monad. I just don't agree   
with Leibniz' theory of how they are organized. Leibniz demanded that   
their organization is imposed ab initio, he assumed that there is a   
special beginning of time. I see the monads as eternal, never created   
nor destroyed, and their mutual relationships are merely the   
co-occurence of their perspectives. This makes God's creativity to be an   
eternal action and not a special one time action.  

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen  

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Subject: Re: Communicability  

On 11/6/2012 11:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote:  

What happens if I mistake a statue of a beautiful woman  
for the real thing, thus turning, eg, a statue of pygmalion into an  
actual woman ?  

Or mistake fool's gold or gold foiled chocolates  
for actual gold coins ?  

Does the world actually become cloudy if I have cataracts ?  

It is not just about you. It is about the huge number of observers. What  
matters is that they can communicate with each other and mutually  
confirm what is "real". Why do you imagine that only humans can be  



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