On 08 Nov 2012, at 14:51, Richard Ruquist wrote:

Stephan,
If the compact manifolds of string theory are all different and
distinct (as I claim in my paper from observations of a variable fine
structure constant across the universe), then the manifolds should
form a Stone space if each manifold instantly maps all the others into
itself, my (BEC physics) conjecture, but also a Buddhist belief-
Indra's Pearls.

If so, youall may be working on implications of string theory- like
consciousness.

However, in my paper I claim that a 'leap of faith' is necessary to go
from incompleteness to consciousness (C). Would you agree? Bruno says
C emerges naturally from comp.

More precisely, I say that consciousness and matter emerges from elementary arithmetic, *once* you bet on comp, that is the idea that the brain or the body can be Turing emulated at some right level so that you would remain conscious.

Bruno



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On 11/8/2012 6:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King

Time and space don't exist as substances so
they don't influence the monads, which as you say
are eternal. Further, there is no "substance space".
So the monads are not organized in any way.
The monads can be thought of as a collection
of an infinite number of mathematical points.

From dust we come and to dust we shall return.


Hi Roger,

   The absolute disconnection of the monads is what makes them a
'dust'. This is exactly what is a Stone space - the dual to a Boolean
algebra. ;-) The idea is that any one monad has as its image of other
monads the vision of a mathematical point. This fits the idea of that
the classical universe is "atoms in a void" as taught by Democritus.
http://www.scottaaronson.com/democritus/lec1.html

   What Craig and I are proposing is to add time to this idea. The
evolution of the dust from one configuration to another is the arrow
of time. Switching to the dual, we see teh evolution of Boolean
algebras, whose arrow is the entailment of one state by all previous
states. These two arrows face in opposite directions

... A => A'     Stone space
   |       |
....A*<=A*'  Boolean algebra

   The duals aspects of each monad evolve in opposite directions.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/8/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen


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On 11/7/2012 11:48 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King

That sounds like Leibniz. Each monad contains the
views of all of the other monads in order to see
the whole, not from just one perspective.

Hi Roger,

Yes, and that is why I like the idea of a Monad. I just don't agree
with Leibniz' theory of how they are organized. Leibniz demanded that
their organization is imposed ab initio, he assumed that there is a
special beginning of time. I see the monads as eternal, never created
nor destroyed, and their mutual relationships are merely the
co-occurence of their perspectives. This makes God's creativity to be an
eternal action and not a special one time action.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
11/7/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen


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On 11/6/2012 11:11 AM, Roger Clough wrote:

What happens if I mistake a statue of a beautiful woman
for the real thing, thus turning, eg, a statue of pygmalion into an
actual woman ?

Or mistake fool's gold or gold foiled chocolates
for actual gold coins ?

Does the world actually become cloudy if I have cataracts ?

It is not just about you. It is about the huge number of observers. What
matters is that they can communicate with each other and mutually
confirm what is "real". Why do you imagine that only humans can be
observers?



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