Hi Stephen P. King

Get a box of crackers with the crackers all lined perfectly up inside.
That's Platonia.

Now invert the box and let the crackers fall, scattering on the 
floor and some even breaking. That's our contingent world.

Nobody knows why, but that's the way time works.
  
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
11/9/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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On 11/8/2012 6:38 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
> Hi Stephen P. King 
> 
> There are no accidents in Platonia. 
> There are also perfect parabolas, because 
> Platonia is the realm of necessary logic, 
> of pure reason and math, which are inextended. 
Hi Roger, 

     There are no accidents in and all is perfect and there is no  
extension or time Platonia because we define Platonia that way. But if  
we are to take Platonia as our basic ontological theory we have a  
problem, we are unable to explain the necessity of the imperfect world  
of matter that has time and is imperfect. It is a utopia that, like all  
utopias, is put up as a means to avoid the facts of our mortal coil. I  
am interested in ontologies that imply the necessity of the imperfect  
and not a retreat to some unaccessible perfection. 



> 
> Thrown earthly objects are extended and 
> thus fly contingently, since spin, humidity and 
> dust particles can create flight imperfections 
> and no measurements of their flights can be perfect. 
> I am also told that Heisenberg's uncertainty principle 
> does not depend on scale. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
> 11/8/2012 
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 
> 
> 
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> Time: 2012-11-07, 19:45:05 
> Subject: Re: Communicability 
> 
> 
> On 11/7/2012 1:19 PM, meekerdb wrote: 
> 
> On 11/7/2012 5:52 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: 
> Again: we are still left without an explanation as to how the accidental 
> coincidence of a Platonic Truth and an actual fact of the world occurs. 
> 
> Why do you write 'accidental'? Platonia is our invention to describe classes 
> of facts by abstracting away particulars. 
> 
> Brent 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Brent, 
> 
> It seems to be that when we abstract away the particulars we lose the ability 
> to talk about particulars. 
> 
> -- 
> Onward! 
> 
> Stephen 
> 


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