On 10 Dec 2012, at 13:59, Roger Clough wrote:

Hi Russell Standish

Actual introspection is subjective, not objective.
Computers as I understand them can only think objectively.

But now we know better. Computers are champion in introspection, and they have a rich subjective life. Even without comp or CTM, and with just the usual definition of knowledge in analytical philosophy.

Bruno



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12/10/2012
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Subject: Re: Re: Introspection (internal 1p) has been dropped by cognitivescience

On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 06:34:56AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> He's talking about psychological introspection using
> everyday language and concepts. Philosophical
> introspection a la Kant for example, is more formal
> and precise and uses formal categories.
>

I don't see a distinction in the topic, or problem being solved - just
a difference in tools used.

Modern AI uses less formal logic these days, and more statistical
modelling (such as in the website I referenced).

Cheers

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