Hi Bruno Marchal My personal introspection will always have my personal memory as context, which a computer will not have. One can in fact say that I am my memory. My memory is the identity of my 1p and is what my 1p sees.
This is perhaps the most serioous problem of comp. [Roger Clough], [[email protected]] 12/11/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-10, 09:29:08 Subject: Re: Introspection (internal 1p) has been dropped by cognitivescience On 10 Dec 2012, at 13:59, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Russell Standish Actual introspection is subjective, not objective. Computers as I understand them can only think objectively. But now we know better. Computers are champion in introspection, and they have a rich subjective life. Even without comp or CTM, and with just the usual definition of knowledge in analytical philosophy. Bruno [Roger Clough], [[email protected]] 12/10/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Russell Standish Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-09, 01:42:47 Subject: Re: Re: Introspection (internal 1p) has been dropped by cognitivescience On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 06:34:56AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Russell Standish > > He's talking about psychological introspection using > everyday language and concepts. Philosophical > introspection a la Kant for example, is more formal > and precise and uses formal categories. > I don't see a distinction in the topic, or problem being solved - just a difference in tools used. Modern AI uses less formal logic these days, and more statistical modelling (such as in the website I referenced). Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
