On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > let us start with the proposed QS experiment by Tegmark, a QS machine with a > 99/100 chance of a *perfect* kill (so let's put aside HP failure or whatever > so to have either the experimenter is killed with the given probabilities or > it is not, no in between, so in 1/100 he is not killed and perfectly well, > 99/100 he is killed). > > You are a witness of such experiment, and you're asked to make a bet on the > experimenter surviving (or not). > > So you bet 100$, if you bet on the experimenter surviving, if he survive, > you'll get 200$, if he does not you'll lose your bet, likewise if you bet on > him die. > > What you should do contrary to what seems reasonable, is to bet on the > experimenter will survive for the following reason: > > If MWI is true: > > 1st Test: in 99/100 worlds you lose 100$ (and the bet ends here, there is no > experimenter left for a second round), in 1/100 worlds you win 200$ > 2nd Test: well... you cannot play again in the 99/100 worlds where you did > lose 100$, so you start already with 200$ in your pocket for this 2nd test, > so you should do the same, no here in 99/100 worlds, you did make a draw > (you put 100$ in 1st test + 100$ win on the 1st test - 100$ you did lose now > because the experimenter is dead), in 1/100 you win again 200$, that make > 300$ in your pocket. > > From the 3rd test on, you can only get richer, weither the experimenter > lives from your POV or not. > > In QM+collapse, if the guy luckily survive two tests, you win money... > you'll only lose money if he is killed at the first test. > > > So contrary to what you may think, you should bet the experimenter should > live, because in MWI, it is garanteed that you'll win money in a lot > branches after only two succeeded test, and as in QM+collapse, only the > 99/100 of the first test lose money, all the others either make no loss or > win money. > > Quentin
Agreed. But that also suggests that MWI has a measure problem except in the mind of an experimenter or witness who expect collapse probabilities. Richard > > > > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
