# Re: Why you should do the unexpected bet in front of a QS experiment ?

```On 1/10/2013 11:37 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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It's not working just fine if *repeated* occurence of such *extremelly low probability* occurs.

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But that's exactly what happens in you hypothetical MWI example.

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If you say it's fine, then you're simply saying probability is meaningless. I wonder what measurement you'll accept to falsify a theory ?
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The theory is in how the probability is calculated. I'd regard that theory, QM, as falsified in your examples. In fact that has been used (wrongly I think) as a criticism of MWI since it implies infinitely many worlds where QM has been empirically falsified.
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Brent

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Regardsn
Quentin

2013/1/10 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>

You can as well say collapse is saved because P=10^-6 > 0 and so probability
calculus is working just fine.  Collapse and MWI use the same probability
calculus.

Brent

On 1/10/2013 10:42 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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Yes but in QM + collapse it is a potentiality which happen according to the
probability in mwi it is a proportion, it always happen. If the event
always happen
your prior probability calculus is severly broken.  Mwi is saved because in
mwi
probability are not about happening but are proportions in qm+collapse it
happening.
Quentin

Le 10 janv. 2013 19:34, "meekerdb" <meeke...@verizon.net
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> a écrit :

On 1/10/2013 7:37 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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```        No, I say it can no more happen in collapse theory without *a very good*
explanation principle. I'm sorry but if the theory predict it happens
with a
1/10⁹ probability of occurence and every time you test it, it
happens... I'd
say your prior probability calculus is screwed, so without a *good*
explanation, your theory can be said to be falsified. As I said, the
*good*
explanation with MWI is that *it does* happen.
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But MWI also predicts P=10^-6.

Brent
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