Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:02:18 -0800 

I hope you're enjoying your check from Exxon/Mobil.

Brent

On 1/17/2013 2:57 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Count me as an heretic denialist of the ecological Apocalipsis. The Michael Mann hockey stick is a fraud as you can verify in the mails leaked in the Climate Research Unit. You must read the mails to have an idea of the context in which the global warming swindle was growth. 90% of the mails between climate scientists around the world were related with the need for government money for department growth. And this includes people of many US and EU universitary institutions. This is Specially true for the experimental data, made most of them by russian scientist in a vanishing USSR that desperately needed money from the west. 

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/23/make-your-own-mannian-hockey-stick-at-home/
Al Gore (peace upon it), The Michael Mann (the merciful and compassionate) prophet added still more fallacies. I know that i deserve the hot Hell for saying something about the sacred books of IPCC, a political body made of power-hungry bureaucrats of sicience, that consistently have denied or diminished any other sources of climate influence but anthropogenic CO2, but here I am. 



2013/1/17 meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    On 1/16/2013 3:54 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:

    On 1/16/2013 1:52 PM, meekerdb wrote:

    On 1/16/2013 1:45 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:


          Now the same PR firms are hired by the oil and coal industry to 
obfuscate
        the problem of global warming.


    And meanwhile we disregard other options out of ideology, namely 
geo-engineering.


    They are disregarded not out of ideology; they are disregarded because the 
global
    warming denial industry has succeeded in obfuscating the science so that 
people
    think there is great uncertainty about the problem.  Of course they are not 
going
    to do anything about a problem they are not sure exists, and certainly not
    anything so drastic, and whose consequences are as difficult to predict, as
    geo-engineering.

    Brent


    There are a couple of very interesting proposals on that front that are 
dismissed
    without proper thought. Global warming can kill us all, but so can energy 
shortage.




    Hi Brent,

        Why is it that almost all of the Green proposals are exactly what would 
be
required to push civilization back to the Stone age, once implemented fully? 

    And those would be what?  Solar power, geo-thermal power, tidal power, wind 
power,
    liquid thorium reactors - which exactly do you see as stone age technology?



    Frankly, I worry more about the impending Ice age which is about over due 
if the
    cycle that we see in the Vostok icecore data is real.

    Ice Core


    Maybe you wouldn't be so worried if you noticed that CO2 peaked at 300ppm 
on all
    those warm cycles and it's now at 390ppm and climbing so fast it's just a 
vertical
    line on the above time scale (unlike the previous cycles).  Or maybe you're 
just
    part of the denialist industry.

    Brent
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