2013/1/17 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>

>  I hope you're enjoying your check from Exxon/Mobil.
>

I don`t find irony in your words, given the context of your previous
answers.
I canĀ“t believe that you are no naive as to assume that  warmism scepticism
is a conspiracy.
My worst suppositions about you have been surpassed.

Come on Brent....


> Brent
>
>
> On 1/17/2013 2:57 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> Count me as an heretic denialist of the ecological Apocalipsis. The
> Michael Mann hockey stick is a fraud as you can verify in the mails leaked
> in the Climate Research Unit. You must read the mails to have an idea of
> the context in which the global warming swindle was growth. 90% of the
> mails between climate scientists around the world were related with the
> need for government money for department growth. And this includes people
> of many US and EU universitary institutions.  This is Specially true for
> the experimental data, made most of them by russian scientist in a
> vanishing USSR that desperately needed money from the west.
>
>
> http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/23/make-your-own-mannian-hockey-stick-at-home/
>
>   Al Gore (peace upon it),  The Michael Mann (the merciful and
> compassionate) prophet added still more fallacies. I know that i deserve
> the hot Hell for saying something about the sacred books of IPCC, a
> political body made of power-hungry bureaucrats of sicience, that
> consistently have denied or diminished any other sources of climate
> influence but anthropogenic CO2, but here I am.
>
>
>
> 2013/1/17 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
>
>>  On 1/16/2013 3:54 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
>>
>> On 1/16/2013 1:52 PM, meekerdb wrote:
>>
>> On 1/16/2013 1:45 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>    Now the same PR firms are hired by the oil and coal industry to
>>> obfuscate the problem of global warming.
>>>
>>
>>  And meanwhile we disregard other options out of ideology, namely
>> geo-engineering.
>>
>>
>> They are disregarded not out of ideology; they are disregarded because
>> the global warming denial industry has succeeded in obfuscating the science
>> so that people think there is great uncertainty about the problem.  Of
>> course they are not going to do anything about a problem they are not sure
>> exists, and certainly not anything so drastic, and whose consequences are
>> as difficult to predict, as geo-engineering.
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>  There are a couple of very interesting proposals on that front that are
>> dismissed without proper thought. Global warming can kill us all, but so
>> can energy shortage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Brent,
>>
>>     Why is it that almost all of the Green proposals are exactly what
>> would be required to push civilization back to the Stone age, once
>> implemented fully?
>>
>>
>>  And those would be what?  Solar power, geo-thermal power, tidal power,
>> wind power, liquid thorium reactors - which exactly do you see as stone age
>> technology?
>>
>>
>> Frankly, I worry more about the impending Ice age which is about over due
>> if the cycle that we see in the Vostok icecore data is real.
>>
>> [image: Ice Core]
>>
>>
>>  Maybe you wouldn't be so worried if you noticed that CO2 peaked at
>> 300ppm on all those warm cycles and it's now at 390ppm and climbing so fast
>> it's just a vertical line on the above time scale (unlike the previous
>> cycles).  Or maybe you're just part of the denialist industry.
>>
>> Brent
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