On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:24:40 PM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 19.03.2013 19:17 Craig Weinberg said the following:
> > On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:38:21 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Craig Weinberg
> >>> wrote:
> >>> Intimate relation is not causality. The stock market has been
> >>> famously been related to skirt lengths
> >> If when skirt lengths changed there was ALWAYS a change in the
> >> stock market in the same direction, and when the stock market
> >> changed there was ALWAYS a change in skirt lengths that preceded it
> >> then its true, changing the length of skirts DOES cause a change in
> >> the stock market; and if humans don't understand how a connection
> >> between the two could possibly work that's just too bad, it
> >> wouldn't make it any less true.
> >> And if all of that were true then dress designers would be the
> >> richest people the world has ever seen. They're not.
> > I already went through this with you with the vanilla ice cream
> > example. Correlation, even 100% correlation, does not equal
> > causation. Two unrelated systems can both be related to a third, and
> > I think that must be the case with neurological activity and
> > subjective experience, where the third and fundamental system is
> > sensory-motor capacity, or sense, from which the private and public
> > subsystems are derived.
> In a way everything is just regularities. For example a good short talk
> in this respect
> Where do the Laws of Nature Come From? (Bas van Fraassen)
Nice. I agree with everything they are saying (well, mainly because it
agrees with what I have been saying...especially about symmetry :)
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