On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:37:54 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 Tom Bayley <tjp.b...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: > > > I always hear an audible click very shortly after I see the light >> switch on. There is no direct causation, >> > > Yes but how do you know that, how can you prove there is no causation? > It's easy, just buy another light switch of the same manufacturer but don't > connect it up to any wires. >
We can write books and other people can read them, so that must prove that consciousness is not caused by neurochemistry. > When you flip the switch it will make a identical audio click, if the > lights don't go on then you know it's not the sound of the click that makes > the lights go on. Alternately you could get some soundproofing material and > put it around your existing switch, the one already hooked up to the wires; > now when you flip the switch you hear nothing and if the lights still come > on then you know the sound does not cause the lights coming on. > > We say that X causes Y If when X happens Y always happens AND when X > doesn't happen Y never happens, and we know for a fact that when the > chemistry of the brain changes consciousness always changes AND when the > chemistry doesn't change consciousness never changes, thus the conclusion > is obvious. > If a conclusion about consciousness seems obvious, then it is probably wrong. Craig > > John K Clark > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
