On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:37:54 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 Tom Bayley <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > I always hear an audible click very shortly after I see the light >> switch on. There is no direct causation, >> > > Yes but how do you know that, how can you prove there is no causation? > It's easy, just buy another light switch of the same manufacturer but don't > connect it up to any wires. >
We can write books and other people can read them, so that must prove that consciousness is not caused by neurochemistry. > When you flip the switch it will make a identical audio click, if the > lights don't go on then you know it's not the sound of the click that makes > the lights go on. Alternately you could get some soundproofing material and > put it around your existing switch, the one already hooked up to the wires; > now when you flip the switch you hear nothing and if the lights still come > on then you know the sound does not cause the lights coming on. > > We say that X causes Y If when X happens Y always happens AND when X > doesn't happen Y never happens, and we know for a fact that when the > chemistry of the brain changes consciousness always changes AND when the > chemistry doesn't change consciousness never changes, thus the conclusion > is obvious. > If a conclusion about consciousness seems obvious, then it is probably wrong. Craig > > John K Clark > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

