On 4/4/2013 11:11 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:



On Thursday, April 4, 2013 1:53:42 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:

    Near death experiences are real, they exist, and they are very dull.


Dull in what way?

    When the brain is deprived of oxygen some people have hallucinations and 
other
    experiences, and some of which can be pleasurable hence the popularity of 
the
    dangerous practice of autoerotic asphyxia, taking LSD would be much safer.


You didn't read the article I guess. The whole point of the experiment is that it shows that scientifically, memories of NDEs do not look like memories of hallucinations.

That's not what it says. It says they don't look like imagined memories of things that didn't happen.


    The thing that makes NDE so dull is that "N" stands for "near". Die and 
decay in
    your grave for a couple of years and then come back and tell me what it was 
like,
    now THAT would be interesting.


Sure, but its still odd that these hallucinations appear to to be real visitations to other worlds. LSD trips have lots of different forms and effects. NDEs are much more clearly defined. It doesn't mean that there is a personal afterlife in heaven or hell, but neither is it possible that the NDE phenomenon is what you want it to be.

No, it means people have memories of things which can be vivid, particularly when the brain isn't having to deal with any perceptions. Haven't you noticed that very old people, or those just developing Alzheimers, have exceptionally detailed memory of events in their distant past and childhood, even though they can't remember their address or phone number.

Brent


Craig


      John K Clark

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