On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:26:11 PM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: > > It depends on the circunstances'. If you read the article i guess that you > will agree. But the thesis is that these moral intuitions are erroneous in > modern societies and have a strong bias against succeesful people in any > circunstance because these moral evaluations evolved in small tribal > societies where everyone knew the merits of everyone else in detail >
Evolutionary psychology is unfalsifiable, and in this case I think plainly used for an ideological purpose. By erroneously framing the concept of social justice as rooted in envy to begin with, and then applying this pseudo-scientific validation of that error, the point is to say "Liberals are just jealous, and that's because they carry an evolutionary defect." What about all of the people who think that imperialism and aristocratic totalitarianism are perfectly fine? How did they escape this selection pressure? Craig > El 16/04/2013 20:48, "Craig Weinberg" <whats...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > escribió: > >> >> >> On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:44:57 PM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: >>> >>> Sucessful in this context is someone that is in better conditions to >>> have offspring whatever the means. This describes how the moral intuitions >>> -like yours- are ellaborated in order to punish them. >>> >> I don't think that it is punishment to protect civilization from >> unchecked exploitation. Think of it as crime prevention after the fact. >> It's not about envy, it is about reducing threats to the common good. >> >> Craig >> >> >>> El 15/04/2013 14:10, "Craig Weinberg" <whats...@gmail.com> escribió: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:56:31 AM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: >>> >> >>> >> This is thread is completely off-topic, but anyway: >>> >> >>> >> The evolutionary roots of envy and social justice: >>> >> >>> >> http://www.scribd.com/doc/**93890864/Punitive-sentiment-** >>> against-successful-**individuals-as-a-**psychological-device-for-anti-** >>> hidden-free-riders-in-**ancestral-hunter-gatherers<http://www.scribd.com/doc/93890864/Punitive-sentiment-against-successful-individuals-as-a-psychological-device-for-anti-hidden-free-riders-in-ancestral-hunter-gatherers> >>> > >>> > >>> > What is "successful" about an heir to a dynastic fortune or the >>> beneficiary of some arbitrary condition of exploitation? >>> > >>> > Craig >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2013/4/14 Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, April 14, 2013 7:56:35 AM UTC-4, Roger Clough wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> One of the great mysteries of liberalism >>> >>>> is the contradiction in its political stance >>> >>>> concerning rich corporations. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On the one hand, it rejects the attempts of conservatives >>> >>>> to lower corporate taxes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Liberals see that wealth inequality is a critically important issue >>> in the US. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> “For every one dollar of assets owned by a single black or Hispanic >>> woman, a member of the Forbes 400 has over forty million dollars.” >>> >>> >>> >>> America Split in Two: Five Ugly Extremes of Inequality >>> http://truth-out.org/**buzzflash/commentary/item/** >>> 17878-america-split-in-two-**five-ugly-extremes-of-**inequality<http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17878-america-split-in-two-five-ugly-extremes-of-inequality> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> But on the other hand, it >>> >>>> will bail out rich corporations such as General Motors >>> >>>> to prevent their failure. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Whoever is in power is going to support big bailouts, as the >>> conservatives proved in 2004 when they supported TARP. >>> >>> >>> >>> "Nearly half of Americans incorrectly think President Obama started >>> the the bank bailout program, otherwise known as the Troubled Asset Relief >>> Program (TARP), a new poll shows. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just 34 percent of Americans surveyed by the Pew Research Center >>> correctly said that TARP was enacted by the Bush administration. Almost >>> half -- 47 percent -- think Mr. Obama started the bank bailout, according >>> to the survey, conducted July 1-5. There was no partisan divide on the >>> issue." - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-**503544_162-20013452-503544.** >>> html <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013452-503544.html> >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> How's that again ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/14/2013 >>> >>>> http://team.academia.edu/**RogerClough<http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to everything-li...@googlegroups.**com. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> >>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Alberto. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-li...@**googlegroups.com. >>> > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.**com. >>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>> . >>> > For more options, visit >>> > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> > >>> > >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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