On 09 May 2013, at 20:11, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/9/2013 10:02 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
Von Neumann thought the extra baggage was required to make the
model match our observations, but Everett later showed that step
was unnecessary. The model (free of additional baggage) predicts
the same observations as the model with it.
He showed that IF the wave function separates into orthogonal
components (an irreversible process) then FPI explains the
observations. But the model says it never does that; it only
approximates that, in certain bases. Decoherence theory tries to
fill in the process by which this occurs give a statistical
mechanics type account of irreversibility. But you could also take
the epistemological interpretation of Peres and Fuchs instead of
inventing other worlds just to save the determinism of an equation.
I like MWI and Bruno's FPI idea, but without some testable
prediction (not retrodiction) I don't find them compelling.
Comp explains that Peres and Fuchs is still a "*many* epistemological
views", like Mermin's "relations without relata".
Those are even closer to comp than Everett, where we can still be
physical-realistic about the branches of the waves.
The Quantum wave should indeed describe a first person plural
knowledge states, with comp. That's why comp is more "many dreams"
than "many-worlds".
Then comp leads to a precise very simple scheme of non trivial TOEs
(SK theory, arithmetic, degree four diophantine polynomial, etc.).
And from it you can get the whole physics. Sorry if up to now it
describes the current physics. May be the physicists were not so bad
observers after all.
The new theory is far simpler. It is too young to predict an unseen
particle, but that is only a matter of (a lot of) work, for the next
generations. It is also the only theory, to my knowledge, which
explains completely the relation and difference between qualia and
quanta, beyond the "why" of the apparent MW.
Note that the comp TOE is just arithmetic, but comp itself is not: it
has the theological component of believing in the physical digital
reincarnation possibility.
Bruno
Brent
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