On 16 Jun 2013, at 07:20, Roger Clough wrote:
The missing perceiver in materialism and artificial intelligence and
how to implement it
Unless you have a perceive (a subject) with a point of view, a
broadband living mind, you have nothing.
Some machines have already discovered their own many different points
of view.
The perceiver has the ability to see the world
Which world?
from his own pinpoint or narrow-band point of view
and scan it through all angles in nroadband.
Here;s what saomputer science has:
no consciousness, just a blind deaf and dumb description of an
object = just data = an objective or public world. (what computers
are confined to live in).
Most are just dualist. They are indeed easily shown inconsistent. But
the problem is not the absence of mind, it is the believe in a primary
physical reality, which is not sustained by any evidences.
Here's what Leibniz gives us:
Personal consciousness, that being (subject + object) = a personal
experience = a personal or subjective worldc
Leibniz seems to be the only one who gives a fairly understandable
account. Here's one of my versions of his view:
http://www.academia.edu/3661917/The_secret_of_perception._How_our_individual_minds_all_perceive_through_the_One_Mind
"The secret of perception. Particular minds and how they relate to
the overall or Cosmic MindThe problem of perception in materialistic
thinking is that it
forces us tothink that there is a homunculo usLeibniz has a more
complicated understanding of particular minds and how they relate
toCosmic Mind.In
Leibniz's metaphysics, there is only one mind (the Perceiver or
Cosmic Mind or God) thatperceives and acts, doing this through the
Surpreme (most dominant) monad.It perceives the whole universe with
perfect clarity.Only it can perceive and act, because its monads
(which includes our minds) have no windows.The monads (our minds)
perceive only indirectly, as the Supreme Monad is the only--what we
would call-- "conscious" mind. We only think and perceive
indirectly,as the Supreme Monad continually and instantly updates
its universe of monads. Thus there is no problem communing with God
(the Cosmic Mind)as we do so continually and necessarily, although
only aqccording to our own abilitiesand perspective. sThat we
ourselves, not God, appear to be the perceiver is thus only
apparent.Also,
because Cosmic Mind sees the entire universe as viewed by a
kaleidoscope of individual monads, the perceptions it returns to us
contains not only whatwe see (the universe from our
own individual perspectives) but what theperceptions of all of the
other monads. Thus each monad knows everythingin the universe, but
only from its own perspective, and monads
being monads,not perfectly clear but distorted.Thus, as Paul says,
“For now we see dimly, as in a mirror, but the n we shallsee
cleasrly, face to face.Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 6/16/2013
Leibniz is still far late compared to the antic Platonists, which are
the only one coherent with facts and theories (comp, QM, etc.)
Bruno
Also see my Leibniz site at
http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough
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