`I don't think anyone has been able to derive an explicit prediction of this from string`

`theory. Most string theory calculations (e.g. black hole entropies) have been done in a`

`kind of approximation on a flat space background, but to compare to the LQG calculation`

`they would have to do an exact calculation.`

Brent

On 6/28/2013 1:41 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:

Would this imply that because of the uniformity of light speed, not varying because ofthe level of photonic energy, also effect string theory, even bosonic string theory?-----Original Message----- From: Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 3:29 pm Subject: Re: *******The holographic principle is a rational justification for idealism****** LQG predicts that the speed of light depends on photon energy. This has been falsified by Fermi telescope observations of gamma rays over on order of magnitude variation in energy. All photons arrive at the same time. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM, <spudboy...@aol.com <mailto:spudboy...@aol.com>> wrote: This may not be an appropriate question, but let us say this claim of monads is true. What does it mean to the butcher, and baker, and bridge builder? Should we erect Cathedrals do the Monad? Or is it just the membrane of information (Beckenstein Bound 10 ^123) is the root of the universe, and we say, "Ok, this is fact, just as Ganymede orbiting Jupiter." Onward to sports. Smolin may know, and anyway, I don't see any difference between loop quantum gravity and string theory, none. Does anyone else? -----Original Message----- From: Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net <mailto:rclo...@verizon.net>> Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:03 am Subject: *******The holographic principle is a rational justification for idealism****** *****The Holographic Principle---A rational justification for idealism*****. The holographic principle seems to be an epplication similar to discretization of continuous signals. In that case, there is no loss in information in converting a continuous time signal into an indexed set of point values, as long as the sampling rate is twice the highest frequency in a continuous signal. This might be a physical vbasis for Leibniz's discrete samplings of images giving the "whole" picture. Continuing that line of thought, and under the proper cicumstances, (from 3 to 2 dimensions) >> infomation in a volume = information in the volume's surface. (from 2 to 1 dimensions) >> infomation in a surface= information in the moving line describing the surface ( from 1 to 0 dimensions) >> >> infomation in the smoving line = information in an indexed set of signal values Monadization of a 3d physical violume would then be successively 3d to 0d mental point ----- Have received the following content ----- Sender: Roger Clough Receiver: 4dworldx Time: 2013-06-28, 11:04:56 Subject: Smolin, the Holographic Principle and Modern Physics > > >It appears that Smolin is using the Holographic principle HP (below) >to find an alternate representation for Einstein's equations. >This also pops up in theories of the black hole, which has a vortex-shaped surface. >Also (not shown below) the relationship between a membrane and some related >volume. The flat geometry of the universe may be another example. > >This being so, it would seem that the contents of a brain >should be given in the brain's surface, just as the >cylindrical surface of a neuron should contain the "thought" within. > > > >http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/gr/public/holo/ > >The Holographic Principle (that a surface can completely define the volume within) >and Modern Physics > > >In 1993 the famous Dutch theoretical physicist G. 't Hooft put forward a bold proposal which is >reminiscent of Plato's Allegory of the Cave. This proposal, which is known as the Holographic Principle, >consists of two basic assertions: > >Assertion 1 The first assertion of the Holographic Principle is that all of the information contained in >some region of space can be represented as a `Hologram' - a theory which `lives' on the boundary of that region. >For example, if the region of space in question is the DAMTP Tearoom, then the holographic principle asserts >that all of the physics which takes place in the DAMTP Tearoom can be represented by a theory which is defined on the walls of the Tearoom. > >Assertion 2 The second assertion of the Holographic Principle is that the theory on the >boundary of the region of space in question should contain at most one degree of freedom per Planck area. >A Planck area is the area enclosed by a little square which has side length equal to the Planck length, a >basic unit of length which is usually denoted Lp. The Planck length is a fundamental unit of length, because >it is the parameter with the dimensions of length which can be constructed out of the basic constants >G (Newton's constant for the strength of gravitational interactions), ? (Planck's constant from quantum mechanics), >and c (the speed of light). A quick calculation reveals that Lp is very small indeed: > >To many people, the Holographic Principle seems strange and counterintuitive: >How could all of the physics which takes place in a given room be equivalent to >some physics defined on the walls of the room? Could all of the information >contained in your body actually be represented by your `shadow'? > > > >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >See my Leibniz site at >http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough--You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups"Everything List" group. 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