As far as I know no string theory predicts that the speed of light varies with photon energy

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:41 PM, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote: > Would this imply that because of the uniformity of light speed, not > varying because of the level of photonic energy, also effect string theory, > even bosonic string theory? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 3:29 pm > Subject: Re: *******The holographic principle is a rational justification > for idealism****** > > LQG predicts that the speed of light depends on photon energy. > This has been falsified by Fermi telescope observations of gamma rays > over on order of magnitude variation in energy. All photons arrive at the > same time. > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote: > >> This may not be an appropriate question, but let us say this claim of >> monads is true. What does it mean to the butcher, and baker, and bridge >> builder? Should we erect Cathedrals do the Monad? Or is it just the >> membrane of information (Beckenstein Bound 10 ^123) is the root of the >> universe, and we say, "Ok, this is fact, just as Ganymede orbiting >> Jupiter." Onward to sports. Smolin may know, and anyway, I don't see any >> difference between loop quantum gravity and string theory, none. Does >> anyone else? >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> >> Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:03 am >> Subject: *******The holographic principle is a rational justification for >> idealism****** >> >> >> *****The Holographic Principle---A rational justification for >> idealism*****. >> >> The holographic principle seems to be an epplication similar >> to discretization of >> continuous signals. In that case, there is no loss in information in >> converting a continuous time signal into an indexed set of point values, >> as >> long as the sampling rate is twice the highest frequency in a continuous >> signal. >> >> This might be a physical vbasis for Leibniz's discrete samplings of >> images giving the "whole" picture. >> >> Continuing that line of thought, and under the proper cicumstances, >> >> (from 3 to 2 dimensions) >> infomation in a volume = information in the >> volume's surface. >> >> >> (from 2 to 1 dimensions) >> >> infomation in a surface= information in the moving line describing the >> surface >> >> ( from 1 to 0 dimensions) >> >> >> infomation in the smoving line = information in an indexed set of >> signal values >> >> >> >> Monadization of a 3d physical violume would then be successively >> >> 3d to 0d mental point >> >> >> >> >> ----- Have received the following content ----- >> Sender: Roger Clough >> Receiver: 4dworldx >> Time: 2013-06-28, 11:04:56 >> Subject: Smolin, the Holographic Principle and Modern Physics >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >It appears that Smolin is using the Holographic principle HP (below) >> >to find an alternate representation for Einstein's equations. >> >This also pops up in theories of the black hole, which has a vortex-shaped >> >surface. >> >> >Also (not shown below) the relationship between a membrane and some related >> >> >volume. The flat geometry of the universe may be another example. >> > >> >This being so, it would seem that the contents of a brain >> >should be given in the brain's surface, just as the >> >cylindrical surface of a neuron should contain the "thought" within. >> > >> > >> > >> >http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/gr/public/holo/ >> > >> >The Holographic Principle (that a surface can completely define the volume >> >within) >> >> >and Modern Physics >> > >> > >> >In 1993 the famous Dutch theoretical physicist G. 't Hooft put forward a >> >bold proposal which is >> >> >reminiscent of Plato's Allegory of the Cave. This proposal, which is known >> >as the Holographic Principle, >> >> >consists of two basic assertions: >> > >> >Assertion 1 The first assertion of the Holographic Principle is that all of >> >the information contained in >> >> >some region of space can be represented as a `Hologram' - a theory which >> >`lives' on the boundary of that region. >> >> >For example, if the region of space in question is the DAMTP Tearoom, then >> >the holographic principle asserts >> >> >that all of the physics which takes place in the DAMTP Tearoom can be >> >represented by a theory which is defined on the walls of the Tearoom. >> >> > >> >Assertion 2 The second assertion of the Holographic Principle is that the >> >theory on the >> >> >boundary of the region of space in question should contain at most one >> >degree of freedom per Planck area. >> >> >A Planck area is the area enclosed by a little square which has side length >> >equal to the Planck length, a >> >> >basic unit of length which is usually denoted Lp. The Planck length is a >> >fundamental unit of length, because >> >> >it is the parameter with the dimensions of length which can be constructed >> >out of the basic constants >> >> >G (Newton's constant for the strength of gravitational interactions), ? >> >(Planck's constant from quantum mechanics), >> >> >and c (the speed of light). A quick calculation reveals that Lp is very >> >small indeed: >> >> > >> >To many people, the Holographic Principle seems strange and >> >counterintuitive: >> >> >How could all of the physics which takes place in a given room be >> >equivalent to >> >> >some physics defined on the walls of the room? Could all of the information >> >> >contained in your body actually be represented by your `shadow'? >> > >> > >> > >> >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) 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