As far as I know no string theory predicts that the speed of light varies
with photon energy


On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:41 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Would this imply that because of the uniformity of light speed, not
> varying because of the level of photonic energy, also effect string theory,
> even bosonic  string theory?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Ruquist <[email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 3:29 pm
> Subject: Re: *******The holographic principle is a rational justification
> for idealism******
>
>  LQG predicts that the speed of light depends on photon energy.
> This has been falsified by Fermi telescope observations  of gamma rays
> over on order of magnitude variation in energy. All photons arrive at the
> same time.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  This may not be an appropriate question, but let us say this claim of
>> monads is true. What does it mean to the butcher, and baker, and bridge
>> builder? Should we erect Cathedrals do the Monad? Or is it just the
>> membrane of information (Beckenstein Bound 10 ^123) is the root of the
>> universe, and we say, "Ok, this is fact, just as Ganymede orbiting
>> Jupiter." Onward to sports. Smolin may know, and anyway, I don't see any
>> difference between loop quantum gravity and string theory, none. Does
>> anyone else?
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roger Clough <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:03 am
>> Subject: *******The holographic principle is a rational justification for
>> idealism******
>>
>>
>> *****The Holographic Principle---A rational justification for
>> idealism*****.
>>
>> The holographic principle seems to be an epplication similar
>> to discretization of
>> continuous signals. In that case, there is no loss in information in
>> converting a continuous time signal into an indexed set of point values,
>> as
>> long as the sampling rate is twice the highest frequency in a continuous
>> signal.
>>
>> This might be a physical vbasis for Leibniz's discrete samplings of
>> images giving the "whole" picture.
>>
>> Continuing that line of thought, and under the proper cicumstances,
>>
>> (from 3 to 2 dimensions) >> infomation in a volume = information in the
>> volume's surface.
>>
>>
>> (from 2 to 1 dimensions) >>
>> infomation in a surface= information in the moving line describing the
>> surface
>>
>>  ( from  1 to 0 dimensions) >>
>> >>  infomation in the smoving line = information in an indexed set of
>> signal values
>>
>>
>>
>> Monadization of a 3d physical violume would then be successively
>>
>> 3d to 0d mental point
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sender:  Roger Clough
>> Receiver:  4dworldx
>> Time: 2013-06-28, 11:04:56
>> Subject: Smolin, the Holographic Principle and Modern Physics
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >It appears that Smolin is using the Holographic principle HP (below)
>> >to find an alternate representation for Einstein's equations.
>> >This also pops up in theories of the black hole, which has a vortex-shaped 
>> >surface.
>>
>> >Also (not shown below) the relationship between a membrane and some related
>>
>> >volume. The flat geometry of the universe may be another example.
>> >
>> >This being so, it would seem that the contents of a brain
>> >should be given in the  brain's surface, just as the
>> >cylindrical surface of a neuron should contain the  "thought" within.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/research/gr/public/holo/
>> >
>> >The Holographic Principle (that a surface can completely define the volume 
>> >within)
>>
>> >and Modern Physics
>> >
>> >
>> >In 1993 the famous Dutch theoretical physicist G. 't Hooft put forward a 
>> >bold proposal which is
>>
>> >reminiscent of Plato's Allegory of the Cave. This proposal, which is known 
>> >as the Holographic Principle,
>>
>> >consists of two basic assertions:
>> >
>> >Assertion 1 The first assertion of the Holographic Principle is that all of 
>> >the information contained in
>>
>> >some region of space can be represented as a `Hologram' - a theory which 
>> >`lives' on the boundary of that region.
>>
>> >For example, if the region of space in question is the DAMTP Tearoom, then 
>> >the holographic principle asserts
>>
>> >that all of the physics which takes place in the DAMTP Tearoom can be 
>> >represented by a theory which is defined on the walls of the Tearoom.
>>
>> >
>> >Assertion 2 The second assertion of the Holographic Principle is that the 
>> >theory on the
>>
>> >boundary of the region of space in question should contain at most one 
>> >degree of freedom per Planck area.
>>
>> >A Planck area is the area enclosed by a little square which has side length 
>> >equal to the Planck length, a
>>
>> >basic unit of length which is usually denoted Lp. The Planck length is a 
>> >fundamental unit of length, because
>>
>> >it is the parameter with the dimensions of length which can be constructed 
>> >out of the basic constants
>>
>> >G (Newton's constant for the strength of gravitational interactions), ?  
>> >(Planck's constant from quantum mechanics),
>>
>> >and c (the speed of light). A quick calculation reveals that Lp is very 
>> >small indeed:
>>
>> >
>> >To many people, the Holographic Principle seems strange and 
>> >counterintuitive:
>>
>> >How could all of the physics which takes place in a given room be 
>> >equivalent to
>>
>> >some physics defined on the walls of the room? Could all of the information
>>
>> >contained in your body actually be represented by your `shadow'?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
>> >See my Leibniz site at
>> >http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
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