On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:46:40 PM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
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> On 27.06.2013 03:15 Craig Weinberg said the following: 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:07:08 AM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Soren Brier, Cybersemiotics: A New Foundation for 
> >> Transdisciplinary Theory of Information, Cognition, Meaningful 
> >> Communication and the Interaction Between Nature and Culture, 
> >> INTEGRAL REVIEW, June 2013, Vol. 9, No. 2, p. 220-263. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> http://integral-review.org/documents/Brier,%20Cybersemiotics,%20Vol.%209,%20No.%202.pdf
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> >> 
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> ... 
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> > This was how I started - seeing semiotics as the bridge between mind 
> > and matter and therefore pattern as the fundamental feature of 
> > nature. The only problem that I have with it is that pattern 
> > ultimately in nothing without a capacity for pattern recognition, aka 
> > sense. Because we have sense, (or because we *are* sense) it is easy 
> > to take patterns for granted and not factor in our own capacity to 
> > render them as a coherent experience, but to be absolutely objective 
> > about the universe, we cannot overlook ourselves and our own privacy 
> > or reduce it to unconscious interactions. 
>
> The question what is "I" and "we" remains indeed. Yet, it seems to be 
> the same for your approach. 
>

My approach is to see sensory-motive experience as the fundamental. To ask 
what "is" relies on the sense of expectation that there 'is' any such thing 
as 'is'.
 

>
> By the way, pattern recognition on its own does not solve the problem of 
> universals. For pattern recognition, it is first necessary to split the 
> world to an agent and its surrounding. 
>

Before you can split anything you need to have a sense of what 'split' is.

Craig
 

>
> Evgenii 
>

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