On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:46:40 PM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > > On 27.06.2013 03:15 Craig Weinberg said the following: > > > > > > On Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:07:08 AM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > >> > >> Soren Brier, Cybersemiotics: A New Foundation for > >> Transdisciplinary Theory of Information, Cognition, Meaningful > >> Communication and the Interaction Between Nature and Culture, > >> INTEGRAL REVIEW, June 2013, Vol. 9, No. 2, p. 220-263. > >> > >> > >> > http://integral-review.org/documents/Brier,%20Cybersemiotics,%20Vol.%209,%20No.%202.pdf > > >> > > ... > > > This was how I started - seeing semiotics as the bridge between mind > > and matter and therefore pattern as the fundamental feature of > > nature. The only problem that I have with it is that pattern > > ultimately in nothing without a capacity for pattern recognition, aka > > sense. Because we have sense, (or because we *are* sense) it is easy > > to take patterns for granted and not factor in our own capacity to > > render them as a coherent experience, but to be absolutely objective > > about the universe, we cannot overlook ourselves and our own privacy > > or reduce it to unconscious interactions. > > The question what is "I" and "we" remains indeed. Yet, it seems to be > the same for your approach. >
My approach is to see sensory-motive experience as the fundamental. To ask what "is" relies on the sense of expectation that there 'is' any such thing as 'is'. > > By the way, pattern recognition on its own does not solve the problem of > universals. For pattern recognition, it is first necessary to split the > world to an agent and its surrounding. > Before you can split anything you need to have a sense of what 'split' is. Craig > > Evgenii > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.