On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:46:40 PM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > > On 27.06.2013 03:15 Craig Weinberg said the following: > > > > > > On Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:07:08 AM UTC-4, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > >> > >> Soren Brier, Cybersemiotics: A New Foundation for > >> Transdisciplinary Theory of Information, Cognition, Meaningful > >> Communication and the Interaction Between Nature and Culture, > >> INTEGRAL REVIEW, June 2013, Vol. 9, No. 2, p. 220-263. > >> > >> > >> > http://integral-review.org/documents/Brier,%20Cybersemiotics,%20Vol.%209,%20No.%202.pdf > > >> > > ... > > > This was how I started - seeing semiotics as the bridge between mind > > and matter and therefore pattern as the fundamental feature of > > nature. The only problem that I have with it is that pattern > > ultimately in nothing without a capacity for pattern recognition, aka > > sense. Because we have sense, (or because we *are* sense) it is easy > > to take patterns for granted and not factor in our own capacity to > > render them as a coherent experience, but to be absolutely objective > > about the universe, we cannot overlook ourselves and our own privacy > > or reduce it to unconscious interactions. > > The question what is "I" and "we" remains indeed. Yet, it seems to be > the same for your approach. >
My approach is to see sensory-motive experience as the fundamental. To ask what "is" relies on the sense of expectation that there 'is' any such thing as 'is'. > > By the way, pattern recognition on its own does not solve the problem of > universals. For pattern recognition, it is first necessary to split the > world to an agent and its surrounding. > Before you can split anything you need to have a sense of what 'split' is. Craig > > Evgenii > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
