On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:34:02PM -0700, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Clark > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test? > > > > >>Every human in existence requires external enabling hardware. > > Yes but humans are not universal computing machines, if indeed we are > machines. Do we know enough about how our brains work and are structured to
... > > >>If a human requires a substrate which it can manipulate in order to > perform its logical operations then a universal human is impossible because > the substrate would necessarily be outside and foundational to its domain. > > Agreed. Humans are exceedingly far from being universal. Our very sense of > self precludes universality. > I may be missing your point entirely, but humans are universal machines in the sense that they can emulate perfectly any Turing machine, given enough time, patience, paper and pens for external storage. They may well be capable of far more than a universal Turing machine, but they're not less. I don't see what the sense of self has to do with it... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
