On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:43 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > A stochastic system may be reducible to being modeled by some set of >> random variation >> > > Yes. > > >> >but In reality it is often a whole lot more subtle than that and the >> "randomness" is not random >> > > If it's not random then it happened for a reason, and things happen in a > computer for a reason too. > > *>>Ask yourself this question, why weren't all those fantastically >>> complex transient dynamic branches in a neural network by the name of >>> Grandmaster Gary Kasparov able to beat a 16 year old computer running a 16 >>> year old chess program?* >>> >> ** >> > >> > > not sure how this has bearing >> > > Is that true, are you really not sure how that has any bearing? I am sure. > > > The super computer that finally beat him had a massive number crunching >> ability >> > > At the time it may have been a supercomputer but that was 16 years ago and > the computer you're reading this E mail message on right now is almost > certainly more powerful than the computer that beat the best human chess > player in the world. And chess programs have gotten a lot better too. So > all that spaghetti and complexity at the cellular level that you were > rhapsodizing about didn't work as well as an antique computer running a > ancient chess program. > > John K Clark > Both soft- and hardware still play a role. Kasparov's loss still smells funky, even though now, I doubt Anand, Carlsen or GMs could consistently stand a chance against say Houdini 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houdini_%28chess%29 I'd say given current state of the art that they might draw a few games per hundred. Perhaps win one every few hundred. But even these fantastic engines have bugs like, which I've seen a few times, so I still wouldn't bet the farm: http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/humans-v-houdini-chess-engine-elo-3300?page=22 PGC > > > > - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
