On 25 September 2013 15:41, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  On 9/24/2013 6:32 PM, LizR wrote:
> On 25 September 2013 13:38, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>wrote:
>> This is also true of materialism. Whether you think this is a problem
>>  or not depends on whether you think the "hard problem" is a problem or
>> not.
>  Indeed. I was about to say something similar (to the effect that it's
> hard to imagine how "mere atoms" can have sights, sounds, smells etc
> either).
> As a rule, if you want to explain X you need to start from something
> without X.
> Absolutely.

If you know of such an explanation, or even the outlines of one, I'd be
interested to hear it. As Russell said, this is the so-called "hard
problem" so any light (or sound, touch etc) on it would be welcome.

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