On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:52:55 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Sep 2013, at 20:42, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Monday, September 23, 2013 4:53:49 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 23 Sep 2013, at 20:49, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, September 23, 2013 2:21:20 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 23 Sep 2013, at 05:43, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> >>> I don't think the simulated typhoon would make the virtual person feel >>> wet any more than it would make them smell seaweed. Why would it? >>> >>> >>> >>> Because I assume comp. >>> >> >> lol. Santa comp is comin' ta town.. >> >> >> >> Well, usually it is non-comp which is compared to Santa Klaus, because we >> don't have any evidences for something not Turing emulable in our body. >> > > > > We don't have any evidences for something that is us in our body either. > > > That's a good point, which indeed follows from comp. "Bodies" are mind's > construction. Indeed. >
Which follows from MSR also...computation is the sense which minds have of generalized bodies. The intellect cannot construct bodies on its own though, not without tactile and/or visual sensitivity. A body is what feels touchable and what looks seeable. A body without tangible sensibility is a shape. An invisible body is a gas (or maybe dark matter, but I doubt it). Comp fails because it takes the mind's own 'myth of the given' for granted. The logical human intellect is so adept at imitating (quicksilver metaphors in alchemy) that is can doubt there can be any more fundamental resource than imitation. This is intentional. The mind must seem airtight and pure to itself to concentrate attention on its fantasies and figuring. It contaminates the intellect to suppose that at its roots are either feelings or physics, but in fact, the mind can create nothing in public without a physical vehicle, and it cannot access its own physical (public facing) vehicle unless it feels its way through the nervous system directly. Craig > Bruno > > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
