On 25 Sep 2013, at 19:06, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> The first person indeterminacy is a ten lines reasoning, usually
considered as rather obvious.
And it's the obvious stuff that has destroyed many a mathematical
proof or philosophical edifice. You make a big deal about
duplicating chambers and what city you end up in and make all sorts
of mystical conclusions from it;
Logical conclusion only. You have to explain to us what is invalid,
without generalities à-la Bill Taylor. Sorry, but you failed up to now.
but all it comes down to is the fact that different data streams
(like one coming from Washington and another from Moscow) will
result in different conclusions (like I am in Washington or I am in
Moscow) when the calculation is concluded. But no doubt I am
confusing the first person view of the second person view of the
third person view with the second person view of the first person
view of the third person view once removed.
You are joking, and that's fun, but still not argument. There is no
notion of second person used in the reasoning.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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