On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote: > Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is > everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is > actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real?
As Bruno said, "real" is not properly defined. If you interview some random person on the street, you are likely to get something like real=material. Under that definition, I think most of us would agree with the quote. But this is a naive and uninteresting definition of real. I have a friend who's a psychiatrist and likes the definition: "real is what does not go away when you stop believing it". He likes it because it's useful to him, because it helps with therapy in many cases. I think this definition will also run into problems with comp. It already runs into problems even with Plato and his cave. But he has it easy, because his job is just to guide people into a state of consciousness where they can hopefully have a life with less suffering. Of course, the buddhists might argue that he's not doing it right :) I think Bruno might agree with this: 2 + 2 + 4 is real. > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Jesse Mazer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I suspect this is one of those fake quotes that gets circulated around the >> internet; searching for "everything we call real" and "bohr" on >> books.google.com I mostly just find it in various religious/spiritual books, >> nothing scholarly (and nothing dating back to before 1986). >> >> Jesse >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made >>> of things that cannot be regarded asreal. If quantum mechanics hasn't >>> profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet.” >>> What's your take on this? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
