On 18 November 2013 22:41, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:02 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is quite simple. Markets ignore the commons, hence a free market
> > solution can't - or is highly unlikely - to work.
> Yes, but this is circular. You're saying that the market cannot work
> for things that you do not allow to be part of the market. The
> government has to exist, otherwise how is the government to exist?

It isn't a question of not allowing the commons to be part of the market.
YOU try convincing a private organisation to put lots of resources into
fixing the commons. Try and persuade, say, Dell or Oracle or McDonalds that
they should spend a substantial part of their revenue building motorways or
fixing the climate, and see how far you get.

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