Dear Edgar Owen: thanks for a post with reason. I am sorry to be too old to read your (any?) book so I take it from your present communication. You wrote among others:

*"...Modern science has a major lacuna, the notion that all of reality is mathematical, that prevents science from grasping the complete nature of reality. In truth all of reality is logical, as is software, and the mathematics is just a subset of the logic. After all, modern science with its misguided insistence that all of reality is mathematical, has had nothing useful to say about the nature of either consciousness or the present moment, the two most fundamental aspects of experience. However I present a computational based information approach to these in my book among many other things..."* I doubt if we can have knowledge about "reality" at all, especially "the complete nature of it". I presume (hope?) you do not limit 'logical' to our present human logic? I arrived by speculating on the diverse facets of different authors what they call (their) coinsciousness a *"response to relations"* irrespective of the performer. Your other inconnu: *the present moment *appeared in my speculations to cut out "TIME" from the view we carry about our existence (I was unsuccessful). Finally: I hope what you deem *"computational" *is not restricted to a numbers-based mathematical lingo - rather a sophisticational ways of arriving at conclusions by ANY ways we may, or may not even know (com - putare). With best regards John Mikes Ph.D., D.Sc. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > All, > > The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book > on Reality available on Amazon under my name. > > Marchal is on the right track, but reality consists not just of numbers > (math) but is a running logical structure analogous to software that > continually computes the current state of the universe. Just as software > includes but doesn't consist only of numbers and math, so does reality. In > fact the equations of physical science make sense only when embedded in a > logical structure just as is the case in computational reality. > > Modern science has a major lacuna, the notion that all of reality is > mathematical, that prevents science from grasping the complete nature of > reality. In truth all of reality is logical, as is software, and the > mathematics is just a subset of the logic. After all, modern science with > its misguided insistence that all of reality is mathematical, has had > nothing useful to say about the nature of either consciousness or the > present moment, the two most fundamental aspects of experience. However I > present a computational based information approach to these in my book > among many other things. > > The second clarification that needs to be made to the post on Marchal's > work is that human math and logic are distinct from the actual math and > logic that computes reality. The human version is a generalized and > extended approximation of the actual that differs from the actual > logico-mathematical structure of reality in important ways (e.g. infinities > and infinitesimals which don't actually exist in external reality). > > I can explain further if anyone is interested, or you can read about it in > my book... > > Edgar Owen > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.