On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:

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> All, > > The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book > on Reality available on Amazon under my name. > > Cool, it sounds quite interesting. I've added it to my wish list. > Marchal is on the right track, but reality consists not just of numbers > (math) but is a running logical structure analogous to software that > continually computes the current state of the universe. > Are you familiar with Bruno's UDA? ( http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html ) It shows that one's consciousness cannot be embedded in any *one *particular "digital universe". This is because when reality is viewed from the inside, one's next moment of experience may bifurcate or leap to any one of an infinite collection of consistent extensions to the computational state that gives rise to one's present moment of experience. > Just as software includes but doesn't consist only of numbers and math, so > does reality. In fact the equations of physical science make sense only > when embedded in a logical structure just as is the case in computational > reality. > > Modern science has a major lacuna, the notion that all of reality is > mathematical, that prevents science from grasping the complete nature of > reality. In truth all of reality is logical, as is software, and the > mathematics is just a subset of the logic. After all, modern science with > its misguided insistence that all of reality is mathematical, has had > nothing useful to say about the nature of either consciousness or the > present moment, the two most fundamental aspects of experience. > The present moment, like the current "branch" in the multi-verse, and the current laws of physics, one's current location, name, and body they inhabit, are all indexical qualities of consciousness. They all provide the illusion of some privileged time, branch, universe, and person. In truth, we are in all times, all branches, all universes, and all experience is equally ours. I saw from your book review it is heavily focused on relativity and time. May I ask, what is your familiarity with QM, do you assume Everett's many-worlds in your book's reasoning? Do you find any relation between multi-verse theories and mathematical reality? > However I present a computational based information approach to these in > my book among many other things. > > The second clarification that needs to be made to the post on Marchal's > work is that human math and logic are distinct from the actual math and > logic that computes reality. The human version is a generalized and > extended approximation of the actual that differs from the actual > logico-mathematical structure of reality in important ways (e.g. infinities > and infinitesimals which don't actually exist in external reality). > > Are you saying real infinities exist only in our minds, or that our human math cannot access infinities which really exist? > I can explain further if anyone is interested, or you can read about it in > my book... > > Thanks, I look forward to both. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.