On 12/23/2013 10:55 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/23 Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net <mailto:edgaro...@att.net>>

    All,

    The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving some
    definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise 
everyone is
    talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere.

    If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and that 
is to just
    define God as the universe itself. First there is now absolute certainty 
that God
    does exist


Well no... It is certain that I experience a reality but that there exists a consistent physical universe defined everywhere is not certain...

Is your experience consistent, i.e. describable without contradictions? OK, then how you conceive it is your model of reality and the universe. If it includes things independent of your thoughts external to you, and other people that agree on these things, then that's the physics of it. Whether it's 'defined everywhere' would depend on your model.

Brent

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