On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:

> All,
>
> The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving
> some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise
> everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere.
>
>
I agree.


> If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and that
> is to just define God as the universe itself.
>

But then how do you define the universe itself?  Two people could have a
very different conception of how big reality is unless a definition is
given.


> First there is now absolute certainty that God does exist (all the
> interminable meaningless arguments vanish), and second his attributes now
> become the proper subject matter of science and reason rather than
> ideology, faith or myth.
>

Anyone who holds that God is the greatest thing that exists must agree that
God = Reality. Otherwise, God would be a sub-element of reality, and
reality would be greater than God.

Jason


>
> But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all
> atavistic myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like them,
> should have been discarded millennia ago....
>
> Edgar
>
>
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