I clearly stated IF a God is desired THEN defining it is reality itself is 
the only logical choice. I'm fine just calling it reality, but lots of 
people (Roger e.g.) need a God.

And it is NOT "ill-defined" even though all of reality is not known. The 
definition itself is tight, exact and meaningful. One doesn't need to know 
everything about reality to define it meaningfully as everything that 
exists. Thus defining God as Reality is well defined and meaningful. It's 
the only rational choice IF you need a God.


On Monday, December 23, 2013 1:48:40 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> All,
> The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving 
> some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise 
> everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere.
> If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and that 
> is to just define God as the universe itself. First there is now absolute 
> certainty that God does exist (all the interminable meaningless arguments 
> vanish), and second his attributes now become the proper subject matter of 
> science and reason rather than ideology, faith or myth.
> But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all 
> atavistic myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like them, 
> should have been discarded millennia ago....
> Edgar

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