On 23 Dec 2013, at 19:48, Edgar L. Owen wrote:

All,

The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere.

If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and that is to just define God as the universe itself.

Do you mean the "physical universe"? That is an Aristotelian God.
I am agnostic, but if computationalism is true, that God does not exist.



First there is now absolute certainty that God does exist (all the interminable meaningless arguments vanish),

?
I disagree. You need faith for that God too.


and second his attributes now become the proper subject matter of science and reason rather than ideology, faith or myth.

Not at all. Are you aware of the first peson indeterminacy? and the consequences?



But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all atavistic myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like them, should have been discarded millennia ago....

Yes, they are fairy tales. But with comp, a primitive physical universe is also a sort of "fairy tale", or at least it is only a simplifying hypothesis, which today is arguably contradicted by some facts and it is also logically incompatible with the comp theory and Occam.

Bruno


Edgar



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