Re: Another shot at how spacetime emerges from computational reality

```Stephen, Jason, Liz,

The answer is very simple when one understands there are two kinds of time.
Present moment P-time is the processor cycle of the computations, and the
computations compute clock time.```
```
The computations MUST take place in time of some sort to compute anything.
The fact that there is a logical sequence that isn't moving gives us
nothing. All comps, including Bruno's, must face this problem which Liz
properly raises....

OK, I'm ducking, but nevertheless it's the only reasonable explanation!
:-)

Edgar

On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:43:34 AM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
> Dear Jason,
>
>   You seem to be ignoring the role of the transitory that is involved in
> the discussion here. The fact is that we are asking questions about things
> we are trying to understand. Merely stating that this is that ignores the
> point. Where doth change emerge if it does not exist at all?
>   This is my problem with Platonia, it has no explanation for the
> appearance of change. We can point at this or that (figuratively speaking)
> as an explanation, but the finger that points does not vanish upon
> alighting on the answer.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Jason Resch <jason...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Stephen Paul King <
>> step...@provensecure.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>>   So what is turning the "knob" on the values of y (or x)?
>>>
>>
>> Nothing, the whole graph exists at once, but y varies as x varies.  Why
>> does x=1,y=9 have to be destroyed to make room for x=2,y=11?  What does
>> destroying the previous state add to x=2,y=11 that wasn't there before?
>>
>> Now consider we aren't dealing with a simple line, but an equation
>> tracing the interactions of all the particle interactions in your brain.
>>  If x=1 corresponds to your consciousness in time 1, and x=2 corresponds to
>> your consciousness in time 2, then how would destroying the x=1 state
>> change your conscious state for x=2?
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jason Resch
>>> <jason...@gmail.com<javascript:>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Stephen Paul King <
>>>> step...@provensecure.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Brent,
>>>>>
>>>>>    I have a persisting question. How is is that we can get away with
>>>>> using verbs (implying actions) when we are describing timeless entities?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  In the same way we can say that y increases as x increases, in the
>>>> graph of y = 2x + 7
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
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