On 30 December 2013 14:59, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 12/29/2013 4:41 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 30 December 2013 09:35, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> Good questions. The computations take place in P-time which is the >> universal processor cycle in which they execute. The results of the >> computations compute dimensional space and CLOCK time. >> >> So an external time dimension is required. > > So imagine a universe with a time dimension and some space-less > computations...I'll try. > > > This shouldn't be any harder than imagining Bruno's Turing machine > computing everything...including space and time. > > Bruno has explanied how his computations take place timelessly, within arithmetic. So far Edgar's ontology requires an external, pre-existing time dimension and a pre-existing "pre-logical space" (whatever that is).
I admit I have difficulty understanding how Bruno's UD "runs" inside arithmetic, but at least he has come up with a coherent theory, as far as I can tell. But so far, at least, I am having trouble pinning down exactly what Edgar is trying to say. (Admittedly I may be biased by his obvious misunderstanding of SR, but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with his other ideas.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.