On 30 December 2013 14:59, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 12/29/2013 4:41 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 30 December 2013 09:35, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> Good questions. The computations take place in P-time which is the >> universal processor cycle in which they execute. The results of the >> computations compute dimensional space and CLOCK time. >> >> So an external time dimension is required. > > So imagine a universe with a time dimension and some space-less > computations...I'll try. > > > This shouldn't be any harder than imagining Bruno's Turing machine > computing everything...including space and time. > > Bruno has explanied how his computations take place timelessly, within arithmetic. So far Edgar's ontology requires an external, pre-existing time dimension and a pre-existing "pre-logical space" (whatever that is).
I admit I have difficulty understanding how Bruno's UD "runs" inside arithmetic, but at least he has come up with a coherent theory, as far as I can tell. But so far, at least, I am having trouble pinning down exactly what Edgar is trying to say. (Admittedly I may be biased by his obvious misunderstanding of SR, but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with his other ideas.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
