Dear Bruno, Is a 3p view necessarily an ontological primitive? If we follow Wheeler's reasoning there is no such thing!
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 31 Dec 2013, at 17:44, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Jason, >> >> Not quite. The CONTENTS of conscious are the results of computations. >> > > This is ambiguous, and I am not sure you are using the standard sense of > "computations". > > > > > > The FACT of consciousness itself, that the computations are conscious, is >> due to the self-manifesting nature of reality as explained in the other >> post. >> > > Does it help you to answer "yes" or "no" to the doctor who propose you an > artificial brain simulating your brain or body at some level of > substitution? > > Is the functioning of a brain Turing emulable, in your theory? > > > > > > >> The rest of your questions don't follow. The fact that reality is real >> and actually exists means it must be present. >> > > It means *a* reality is present. *the* reality is the problem, what we > search, using this or that theories. > > > > > > That presence of reality self-manifests as the shared common present >> moment we all experience our existence within, which is the shared locus of >> reality, and that present moment is the only locus of reality. Therefore no >> block time, no MW, etc. >> > > In the first person view. Not necessarily in the 3p view, and it should be > better so, I think, to avoid solipsism and mono-dream. > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/everything-list/7G5zm5OFT0k/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 stephe...@provensecure.com http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.