On 10 Jan 2014, at 22:41, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/10/2014 12:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Jan 2014, at 22:32, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Dear LizR,
There is an interdependency that should not be ignored between
the objects that express the quantities and relations that are
represented by the logic and arithmetic. A universe that does not
contain any persistent entities would not be capable of expressing
numbers or statements.
Yes. But arithmetic contains many relatively persistent beings.
But what is the measure of "relative persistence"?
It is the measure almost defined by the material hypostases (in
S4Grz1, Z1* and X1*). It defines the comp physical laws. If they don't
exist, comp has to be false, or we are in a simulation, or the S4
theory of knowledge should be amended.
Are you talking about neutrons that may last seconds or millenia,
depending on circumstances, or a planet or a person which change
constantly and are only recognizable as a "being" in a rough and
approximate way?
? (May be answers have already been given by others. Nor sure I see
what you mean here).
Bruno
Brent
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