On 12 January 2014 18:33, Stephen Paul King <stephe...@provensecure.com>wrote:
> Dear LizR,
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:00 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12 January 2014 14:52, Stephen Paul King
>>> Dear LizR,
>>> That is the claim and I show that it is false. A class that has a
>>> particular set of properties and not the rest of the properties required to
>>> "balance it all out to Nothing" is not neutral. It is biased!
>> So, can't arithmetic be balanced out to nothing? What can?
> Of course arithmetic be balanced out to nothing! By the class of physical
> objects and their actions! They are what it isn't. Is this not making
> sense? I don't see how it is complicated...
> I must admit to being a little confused.
"everything is arithmetic" IS neutral monism:
You appeared to disagree. But then you said "Of course arithmetic be
balanced out to nothing!"
I assume you meant to say it *can't *be balanced out to nothing, because
later, you said
"My claim is that arithmetic is not Nothing thus it is not neutral and
cannot be the foundation of a neutral monism."
So I'll assume that was a typo above, unless you tell me otherwise.
So, if arithmetic *isn't* capable of being "balanced out to nothing", what *is
*capable? (And what is involved in balancing out to nothing, anyway?)
I'll have a stab at what "BOTN" may involve.
I seem to recall that Russell Standish's book "Theory of Nothing" says that
all possible information = zero information --- if you have information as
bitstrings, then all possible bitstrings add up to a Library of Babel, a
collection which contains all, and hence no, information --- so that is an
example of something that "balances out to nothing".
Similarly, a multiverse in which all possible things happen "balances out
to nothing" *except for* the laws of physics that operate within it. (While
a universe in which things could have happened differently doesn't - it has
a single, definite history.)
But surely one needs some form of logic to define information, and some
form of logic to define the laws of physics? So aren't these prior to
something *being able to* balance out to nothing?
And if so, might not arithmetic also fall into the "logically prior basket"
- i.e. be something that is required thath makes it possible for neutral
monism to exist?
(Did that make sense? I may be losing the thread here. ..)
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