On 30 Jan 2014, at 00:13, LizR wrote:
On 30 January 2014 12:09, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:01:19 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 30 January 2014 11:39, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:38:04 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
On 30 January 2014 11:24, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:34:48 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> NO ROOM CAN BE CONSCIOUS.
And we know that because we can say it in all capital letters, or
possibly from the teachings of two of your favorite subjects,
astrology and numerology.
The all caps were in response to Bruno's all caps, and no, you don't
need astrology and numerology to understand that rooms are not
haunted by the spirits of system-hood.
Imagine a small, roughly spherical room made out of a fairly hard
material something like limestone. Make a few holes in it, fill it
with some goop with the consistency of blancmange, decorate with
sense organs and throw in a body.
Et voila!
Voila, a cadaver.
Unless all such objects are cadavers, this "disproves" the statement
that no room can be conscious.
(I must admit the idea that "no room can be conscious" seems to
demand qualification...)
All such objects would be cadavers, in the absence of some
subjective experience which is being expressed.
What about anaesthesia and dreamless sleep?
With comp it might be like with death, or approximation. The 1p
experience are hard to describe, and usually hard to memorize except
for vague feeling that some time has passed (when "you" come back).
Bruno
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