On 31 Jan 2014, at 13:13, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Liz,
Your mouth sure has to move a lot to tell us it's not moving!
The problem is not that static equations DESCRIBE aspects of
reality. The problem is that you are denying the flow of time.
We deny a *primitive* and *ontological* flow of time. We don't deny
the internal experience of flow of time.
For equations to compute (not just describe) reality, there must be
active processor cycles. There is simply NO way around that...
Arithmetic is full of active processor cycles.
Bruno
Edgar
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:24:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
Why do some people have such a problem with "how change can emerge
from something static" ? It's as simple as F = ma - a static
equation describing something changing. Change is by definition
things being different at different times. If you map out all the
times involved as a dimension, you will naturally get a "static"
universe, just as putting together all the moments making up a movie
gives you a reel of film - but only from a "God's eye perspective".
This is the perspective science gives us, the perspective given by
using equations and models and maps to describe reality; it isn't
the world of everyday experience, which (at best) views those
equations and so on from within (assuming for a moment they are so
accurate as to be isomorphic to reality).
Obtaining change from the static view used by science is a non-
problem, and has been since Newton published his Principia.
There are problems with comp, of course, like the "white rabbit"
problem. Does anyone have any new views on the real problems, rather
than worrying about straw men?
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