On 2 February 2014 03:52, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:

It's because you don't listen, and then project that quality onto me. It's
> very common I've found. Not everyone is that way though. I have many
> productive conversations with people also. That would be hard to explain if
> it was my fault.


It's easy for the pot to call the kettle black. But why talk of fault? I
know it's nice when we can find agreement and it's understandable to think
of such conversations as productive. But I've found some of my most
productive conversations have been with people that I disagreed with at the
outset, but who were able to help me see where I was in error by a clear
and reasoned step-wise argument. This has happened more than once on this
list. Trouble is, in your case I rarely find that your responses bear any
direct relation to my point, no matter how painstakingly I try to phrase
it; rather you go off on some tangent of your own. This is what I mean by
your tendency to change the subject rather than respond directly, which
strikes me as more like a politician or a lawyer trying to distract
attention from a flaw in his position.

Things would go better if you could start from the point made and try to
proceed step-by-step to your conclusion rather than just telling people
that they don't understand some hidden sophistication of your theory or
that it trumps reason in some unspecified way. You must have noted how
Bruno regularly asks you to clarify your assumptions and principles of
derivation because that's the only way that a theory can be impartially
assessed according to common rules of engagement that everyone can follow.
Else all we have is interminable wrangling and talking past each other that
usually ends merely in irritation, as it has unfortunately done in this
case.

David

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