On 01 Feb 2014, at 16:44, Craig Weinberg wrote:

Only sense can allow theory to go beyond itself...in theory.

Löbian machine can use their G*-G difference to go beyond itself, and perhaps generate sense, at their own risk and peril. But the sense will be mediated by the different points view. Only the 1p views (with the "& p" occurrence in their arithmetical "definition") get the 1p sense (the sense per se).

Bruno



http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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