On 3 February 2014 08:31, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 2/2/2014 5:37 AM, David Nyman wrote:
>
> Craig, nothing you have said so far diminishes by a single iota the
> significance of the paradox to your theory. It's not so easy to disarm it
> as insouciantly interpolating armfuls of non-sequiturs couched in an
> impenetrable private jargon. You quote Chalmers, but you consistently dodge
> (or perhaps don't really get) the point he is making. His analysis isn't
> merely that physics seems to make consciousness causally irrelevant, though
> that in itself would be daunting enough. The paradoxical entailment comes
> from confronting the stark realisation that, despite this,
> physically-instantiated bodies and brains (i.e. the appearances in terms of
> which we interact both with "ourselves" and with each other) continue to
> behave *as if* they were laying claim to such conscious phenomena.
> Furthermore, they apparently do so by means of a causally-closed mechanism
> that entails that they neither possess these phenomena nor could plausibly
> have any access to them.
>
>
> But the "apparently" in the above is not apparent at all.  One could just
> as well conclude that consciousness is a nomologically necessary aspect
> of the causally-close physics; that it's no more separable than is
> temperature from molecular motion.
>

Sounds like Max Tegmark's latest notion?

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