On Saturday, February 15, 2014 10:49:56 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > On 16 February 2014 01:32, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > No, the copy of the experience has no belief or experience at all. The > > reflection of the fire doesn't burn anything. > > Are you saying that the copy will be dead?
I'm saying that the copy was never alive to begin with. > A pathologist would examine > it and declare that it cannot possibly be dead, everything is normal. > It not only looks like Craig, it also has skin, bones, internal > organs, blood, the histological structure of the organs is all normal, > biochemical analysis is normal, everything is normal. You are assuming that is possible, but it isn't. All you can do is clone me, which is no better than a twin brother as far as being a copy. No other kind of reproduction will work, any more than a flame could be made out of pixels. > If it's all > normal by every objective test but it is dead, that would be a > miracle. > It won't be normal by every objective test. You keep thinking of a zombie, but I am talking about a doll. There are no zombies, just as there is no way to turn lead into gold by a chemical transformation. > > >> Given that a person with a delusion by definition lacks insight into > the > >> fact that he is deluded, how do you know that you are not a copy? > > > > > > You can't copy awareness. Awareness is what is uncopyable, not just > because > > awareness is special, but because it is ontologically perpendicular to > the > > possibility of simulation. All attempts to copy awareness result in a > doll. > > A doll as in dead, or some other kind of doll? > A doll as in never alive - as in a sculpture, an artifice, a facade... Craig > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
