On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:09:32 PM UTC, Liz R wrote: > > On 9 March 2014 00:18, <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> this is what the Clash predicted >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkyCrx4DyMk >> >> I stumbled on it....considering it's meant to be Punk, I was surprised >> how good it is. Good vocals >> > > What on earth do you mean? Of course punk is good (I think of the Clash as > one of the less good examples myself, London Calling is definitely so-so > imho). Siouxsie and the Banshees (listen to "Once upon a time" for the best > tracks), the Pretenders (especially their first album), Ian Dury and the > Blockheads, the Stranglers, the Go-gos, X-ray spex ... to name but a few > ... all good musicians liberated by the "new wave" ... or going back > earlier we have the Velvet Underground, arguably the proto-punks (or maybe > proto-Goths...or indeed > proto-almost-everything-that-the-Beatles-weren't-proto), not to mention the > wonderful Iggy Pop and I guess Blondie and Sonic Youth, to take two ends of > the spectrum. And the Flaming Lips. And then you can look at all the bands > and individuals influenced by punk, from Grunge to House to Grindcore to > Black Metal to whatever the kids are listening to now (Lorde, mainly, it > seems, who went to the same school as my son :) > This is looking at the first ever copy of I.D. magazine tee hee. That might not be a comprehensible point to make.....it's just that I remember seeing what must have been an earlier issue at the time...looked like a load of paper stapled together. Each page was made up of a rack of snapshots of people photographed on the street just for catching the eye for being different. The quality of everything from the paper, the print, the picture quality, staples, even the people In the shots most dimensions wasn't necessarily better than dirt. But it was about one dimension of the person in the picture, only. Authenticity. To a peer...another young person. Doesn't mean anything in the scheme of things..not meant to ei itther. But it was very important at the time....who was authentic. Looks have always mattered a lot, because in the end everything was always about getting laid. But being a looker and a scuzzbucket wouldn't get you in for long. Being authentic and scuzzbucket would. Being authentic and ugly as shit would get you in. Obviously being authenatic and drop dead gorgeous was to be the best. That was me and you.
> Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did > arguably launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type > of music which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but > bubbled to the surface when Rotten et al appeared on prime time TV swearing > away. The world was never the same. > Yeah what a tosser. But it's definitely a case of not knowing what would have been the same/different had he not walked the earth. Happy days! Happy memories. > > >> Being different, dressing different, making your own music, writing your >> own lyrics. It's something kids marv el ad,t when a band does it today. It >> was the norm back in the day. A lucky time that way. Black music was >> something to marvel at, so diverse, so experimental, so leading the way. It >> just vanished , I hope it comes back one day. Simon Cowell says the average >> quality is higher than ever, but a sausage factory does that >> > > Yes indeed. But I see that spark in Lorde and even dear Lady Gaga. To > quote Lorde, not verbatim, She had to do a photoshoot (being famous now and > all that) and the photographer kept saying 'Smile!' and after a while she > said, 'I got here because I did my own thing, and I'm not smiling because > you tell me to!' - and she didn't, and we have photos to prove it. > > > PS And she's on the cover of "Rolling Stone" wearing a "Cramps" > T-shirt!!!!! That girl is definitely my hero now, even if I didn't like her > music - I thought the Cramps were only for weirdos like me. (In a couple of > years she WILL be playing Morticia Addams, either on film or in real life.) > I don't know much of her music but I saw her on a talk show I never normally watch, and liked her a lot. There's a lot of great performers, easily as good as the best back then. Christine aguil-wtf her name is was brilliant. Many more. But here the middle is matters a lot IMHO, and what the middle is about. For the young I mean. Beca use that's how most of them get to be young in the world. It's not about the stars, it's about them. In a sense. > > > > >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
