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Subject: Re: The way the future was
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:09:32 PM UTC, Liz R wrote:
On 9 March 2014 00:18, <[email protected] <javascript:> > wrote:
this is what the Clash predicted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkyCrx4DyMk
I stumbled on it....considering it's meant to be Punk, I was surprised how good
it is. Good vocals
What on earth do you mean? Of course punk is good (I think of the Clash as one
of the less good examples myself, London Calling is definitely so-so imho).
Siouxsie and the Banshees (listen to "Once upon a time" for the best tracks),
the Pretenders (especially their first album), Ian Dury and the Blockheads, the
Stranglers, the Go-gos, X-ray spex ... to name but a few ... all good musicians
liberated by the "new wave" ... or going back earlier we have the Velvet
Underground, arguably the proto-punks (or maybe proto-Goths...or indeed
proto-almost-everything-that-the-Beatles-weren't-proto), not to mention the
wonderful Iggy Pop and I guess Blondie and Sonic Youth, to take two ends of the
spectrum. And the Flaming Lips. And then you can look at all the bands and
individuals influenced by punk, from Grunge to House to Grindcore to Black
Metal to whatever the kids are listening to now (Lorde, mainly, it seems, who
went to the same school as my son :)
Don’t forget the original punk song – IMO – Pushing too Hard by the Seeds –
first released as a single way back in 1965. Definitely a precursor to Grunge
and Punk. I would also mention the Thirteenth Floor Elevators (Rocky Erickson’s
first band – before they locked him up in an insane asylum in Texas for having
some Marijuana seeds in his car) and tortured him with electro shock therapy.
The Stooges (Iggy Pops original band) and the MC5 another hard core Detroit
band form the same era – also are influential deep roots of Punk & Grunge and
Metal as well. Jimi Hendrix bears mentioning too – he took the guitar to a new
place (it is a tragedy that he died so soon)
Chris
This is looking at the first ever copy of I.D. magazine tee hee. That might not
be a comprehensible point to make.....it's just that I remember seeing what
must have been an earlier issue at the time...looked like a load of paper
stapled together. Each page was made up of a rack of snapshots of people
photographed on the street just for catching the eye for being different. The
quality of everything from the paper, the print, the picture quality, staples,
even the people In the shots most dimensions wasn't necessarily better than
dirt. But it was about one dimension of the person in the picture, only.
Authenticity. To a peer...another young person. Doesn't mean anything in the
scheme of things..not meant to ei itther. But it was very important at the
time....who was authentic. Looks have always mattered a lot, because in the end
everything was always about getting laid. But being a looker and a scuzzbucket
wouldn't get you in for long. Being authentic and scuzzbucket would. Being
authentic and ugly as shit would get you in. Obviously being authenatic and
drop dead gorgeous was to be the best. That was me and you.
Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did arguably
launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type of music
which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but bubbled to
the surface when Rotten et al appeared on prime time TV swearing away. The
world was never the same.
Yeah what a tosser. But it's definitely a case of not knowing what would have
been the same/different had he not walked the earth.
Happy days!
Happy memories.
Being different, dressing different, making your own music, writing your own
lyrics. It's something kids marv el ad,t when a band does it today. It was the
norm back in the day. A lucky time that way. Black music was something to
marvel at, so diverse, so experimental, so leading the way. It just vanished ,
I hope it comes back one day. Simon Cowell says the average quality is higher
than ever, but a sausage factory does that
Yes indeed. But I see that spark in Lorde and even dear Lady Gaga. To quote
Lorde, not verbatim, She had to do a photoshoot (being famous now and all that)
and the photographer kept saying 'Smile!' and after a while she said, 'I got
here because I did my own thing, and I'm not smiling because you tell me to!' -
and she didn't, and we have photos to prove it.
PS And she's on the cover of "Rolling Stone" wearing a "Cramps" T-shirt!!!!!
That girl is definitely my hero now, even if I didn't like her music - I
thought the Cramps were only for weirdos like me. (In a couple of years she
WILL be playing Morticia Addams, either on film or in real life.)
I don't know much of her music but I saw her on a talk show I never normally
watch, and liked her a lot. There's a lot of great performers, easily as good
as the best back then. Christine aguil-wtf her name is was brilliant. Many
more. But here the middle is matters a lot IMHO, and what the middle is about.
For the young I mean. Beca use that's how most of them get to be young in the
world. It's not about the stars, it's about them. In a sense.
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