Yes, there were quite a few punk-style bands in the 60s, although memory
fails me apart from the obvious, the Velvet Underground and associated
spinoffs (John Cale in particular). One song in particular - I just
remember this line about an ice cream cone, but the rest escapes me.


On 10 March 2014 08:27, Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:09:32 PM UTC, Liz R wrote:
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> On 9 March 2014 00:18, <[email protected]> wrote:
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> this is what the Clash predicted
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkyCrx4DyMk
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> I stumbled on it....considering it's meant to be Punk, I was surprised how
> good it is. Good vocals
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> What on earth do you mean? Of course punk is good (I think of the Clash as
> one of the less good examples myself, London Calling is definitely so-so
> imho). Siouxsie and the Banshees (listen to "Once upon a time" for the best
> tracks), the Pretenders (especially their first album), Ian Dury and the
> Blockheads, the Stranglers, the Go-gos, X-ray spex ... to name but a few
> ... all good musicians liberated by the "new wave" ... or going back
> earlier we have the Velvet Underground, arguably the proto-punks (or maybe
> proto-Goths...or indeed
> proto-almost-everything-that-the-Beatles-weren't-proto), not to mention the
> wonderful Iggy Pop and I guess Blondie and Sonic Youth, to take two ends of
> the spectrum. And the Flaming Lips. And then you can look at all the bands
> and individuals influenced by punk, from Grunge to House to Grindcore to
> Black Metal to whatever the kids are listening to now (Lorde, mainly, it
> seems, who went to the same school as my son :)
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> Don't forget the original punk song - IMO - Pushing too Hard by the Seeds
> - first released as a single way back in 1965. Definitely a precursor to
> Grunge and Punk. I would also mention the Thirteenth Floor Elevators (Rocky
> Erickson's first band - before they locked him up in an insane asylum in
> Texas for having some Marijuana seeds in his car) and tortured him with
> electro shock therapy. The Stooges (Iggy Pops original band) and the MC5
> another hard core Detroit band form the same era - also are influential
> deep roots of Punk & Grunge and Metal as well. Jimi Hendrix bears
> mentioning too - he took the guitar to a new place (it is a tragedy that he
> died so soon)
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> This is looking at the first ever copy of I.D. magazine tee hee. That
> might not be a comprehensible point to make.....it's just that I remember
> seeing what must have been an earlier issue at the time...looked like a
> load of paper stapled together. Each page was made up of a rack of
> snapshots of people photographed on the street just for catching the eye
> for being different. The quality of everything from the paper, the print,
> the picture quality, staples, even the people In the shots most dimensions
> wasn't necessarily better than dirt. But it was about one dimension of the
> person in the picture, only. Authenticity. To a peer...another young
> person. Doesn't mean anything in the scheme of things..not meant to ei
> itther. But it was very important at the time....who was authentic. Looks
> have always mattered a lot, because in the end everything was always about
> getting laid. But being a looker and a scuzzbucket wouldn't get you in for
> long. Being authentic and scuzzbucket would. Being authentic and ugly as
> shit would get you in. Obviously being authenatic and drop dead gorgeous
> was to be the best. That was me and you.
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> Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did
> arguably launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type
> of music which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but
> bubbled to the surface when Rotten et al appeared on prime time TV swearing
> away. The world was never the same.
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> Yeah what a tosser. But it's definitely a case of not knowing what would
> have been the same/different had he not walked the earth.
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> Happy days!
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> Happy memories.
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> Being different, dressing different, making your own music, writing your
> own lyrics. It's something kids marv el ad,t when a band does it today. It
> was the norm back in the day. A lucky time that way. Black music was
> something to marvel at, so diverse, so experimental, so leading the way. It
> just vanished , I hope it comes back one day. Simon Cowell says the average
> quality is higher than ever, but a sausage factory does that
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> Yes indeed. But I see that spark in Lorde and even dear Lady Gaga. To
> quote Lorde, not verbatim, She had to do a photoshoot (being famous now and
> all that) and the photographer kept saying 'Smile!' and after a while she
> said, 'I got here because I did my own thing, and I'm not smiling because
> you tell me to!' - and she didn't, and we have photos to prove it.
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> PS And she's on the cover of "Rolling Stone" wearing a "Cramps"
> T-shirt!!!!! That girl is definitely my hero now, even if I didn't like her
> music - I thought the Cramps were only for weirdos like me. (In a couple of
> years she WILL be playing Morticia Addams, either on film or in real life.)
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> I  don't know much of her music but I saw her on a talk show I never
> normally watch, and liked her a lot. There's a lot of great performers,
> easily as good as the best back then. Christine aguil-wtf her name is was
> brilliant. Many more. But  here the middle is matters a lot IMHO, and what
> the middle is about. For the young I mean. Beca use that's how most of them
> get to be young in the world. It's not about the stars, it's about them. In
> a sense.
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