Here's an article that informs me, if nobody else, how complicated the climate thing is. http://phys.org/news/2014-03-goldilocks-principle-hypothesis-earth-habitability.html
Beyond that I agree with John on his estimate of cutting the standard of living down, to fit the ideal "environmental foot print." Improving the standard of living with better energy technology will sustain the billions and flourish the ecosystem-if done right. Technology is the answer, sans, government rule of the public. Dictatorships, even well-meaning ones, are horrible. Use Mao's approach to agricultural production during the Great Leap Forward from 1958-62, as a prime example. -----Original Message----- From: Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 12:22 pm Subject: RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> wrote: > I have offered quite a few prescriptions – none of which you will approve of, > because they entail the adoption of a new ethic of material frugality, of > having a light footprint, and of adopting sustainable practices, as we also > phase out current unsustainable ones. You seem to be violently opposed to the > very idea of such an ethic >>I am violently opposed to your prescriptions because they can NOT keep the >>present world population alive, BILLIONS would die horribly. So don't give me >>any of that righteous moral high ground crap environmentalists wallow in. Bull shit! Billions will die if we continue along our current course of consuming resources as fast as the global market can possibly manage. Don’t give me your righteous crap. Your – do nothing attitude is a guarantee that billions of people will die and that most species on earth will go extinct. In just fifty years or so the market driven industrial economies of the Oil Age have managed to burn through around half of everything – and John Clark – says full speed ahead. You are so full of it John I am amazed you do not just burst in a giant shit storm. So fuck you asshole, and your incendiary accusations of genocide that you level – without any basis – at those who do not share your magical thinking cornucopian ideology of eternally and magically self-replenishing resource base. This world has limits and we have reached them. > and are hostile to energy harvesting – the solar flux, the wind. I would be in favor of them if they worked, but environmentalists would be in favor of them only if they don't work. To environmentalists new energy sources are fine as long as it's all just theoretical, but as soon as it starts to look practical and somebody tries to actually build a large solar or wind instillation they do everything they can to stop it. Screw you. The facts on the ground tell a different story. The pace and scale of the global solar PV rollout proves that you are full of shit Mr. Clark. > All the various threads of our world’s problems are rooted in the same evil > system that has elevated naked greed to the supreme preeminent level. All our problems are rooted in the same thing, SIN; so repent now or suffer the just punishment of the Environmental Gods! You should have been a preacher, but then now that I think about it, you already are. And you should have been a propagandist, but then come to think of it you already are. Asshole. Chris de Morsella John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
