YES! I strongly believe that the agenda of control in lucid dreams is a false path. It also doesn't work beyond a certain point. One encounters stronger and stronger resistance from the dream process against one's attempts to steer the dream in the direction desired by the ego. What lucid dreaming allows is a kind of conscious conversation with the unconscious (or the soul, whatever word you prefer). If you give up control you can surrender to a deep experience that has many similarities with a psychedelic 'trip'.
On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:34:10 AM UTC+10, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 10 Apr 2014, at 12:57, LizR wrote: > > On 10 April 2014 22:54, <spudb...@aol.com <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Dream better, please. >> > > Controlling your dreams is a whole new ballgame, or so I've been led to > believe. > > > > My feeling is that controlling is a nuisance for lucidity, or even just > the quality of a dream. The lucid dream can become like a day-dream fantasy > if you let yourself take the whole control. You can develop easily typical > recurring "control" habits. > It took me many years to no more fly in lucid dreams, and just walk and > get on with the dream. > > I would say that on the contrary, the more you abandon control, the more > big is the chance to be unexpectedly surprised and led to a "big dream". > > It is similar with some psychotropics, and perhaps with life, and ... (of > course!) computer science, where universality entails partial control only > (if your remember the proof?). > > Is it a new ballgame? The French and Dutch wrote quite impressive books on > lucid dreams in the 19th century, but before Jouvet, Hearne, LaBerge, > Dement, etc. that was out the domain of science (for bad reasons). > > Dreams constitutes the royal path to metaphysics and doubt. The indian > yoga vasistha, like the whole platonism (in my opinion) is based on that > idea. It is easy to become lucid in one dream, but it can be hard, if not > impossible, to *remain* lucid in the many dreams. > > Bruno > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
