On Friday, April 11, 2014 11:21:29 PM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote: > > > On 12 Apr 2014, at 4:47 am, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > Interesting, Professor Marchal. From what I have read some lucid dreamers > can actually feel the metal top of a car, or the feel of a wooden fence as > the dream 'walks' by. Plus, the dreamer knows he is dreaming. > > > > Last night I had a lucid dream (must be this thread getting into the > unconscious and stirring all sorts of things up.) Your typical flying > dream, complete with the waving of arms/wings flapping in order to > levitate. It was all quite natural and easy. I “flew” up outside the > apartment block where I live, to inspect the outside of the building (in > “reality” we are about to undergo a re-pinning operation as the mortar is > crumbling in spots) and I remember assuring myself as I was zooming around > the outside that “yes, this is obviously where I live”. At the same time, > “I” was able to observe myself in the act of believing falsity. > > I could see that the building I was hovering outside (just like an avatar > in Second Life”) looked absolutely NOTHING like the building in which I > really live, yet I both believed it was the true and correct building and > simultaneously observed myself in the act of believing something false. > Both states involved a level of self-observation and belief. >
Nice. I think this hints at the narrowness of modal assumptions about consciousness. Qualia is not just belief or a function of belief, as it can be both believed and disbelieved on different levels of awareness at the same time. > > Kim > > ============================ > > Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL > > Email: [email protected] <javascript:> > Mobile: 0450 963 719 > Landline: 02 9389 4239 > Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com > > "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
