On Monday, May 5, 2014 9:12:45 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: > > On 3 May 2014 09:39, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote: > >> On Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:07:13 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: >> > Do you believe that mathematical truths are true independent of mind? >>> >> I'm not sure what mind is. I understand that nothing can exist >> independently of sensory experience, including mathematical truths. >> > > That seems to be a "no". So if things don't exist independently of sensory > experience, where do they come from when we first observe them? Did the > planet Uranus not exist before William Herschell observed it? >
Yes, Uranus existed before Herschel - Uranus existed before any biological phenomenon was present on Earth, but that does not mean that the universe is devoid of sensory experience before that. It does not mean that matter is something other than a sensory experience. We use a light bulb to create light locally, but that does not mean that light is produced only by bulbs or that all light is reducible to the activity of light bulbs. The view of Pansensitivity that I have is completely indifferent to biology or human existence. It's indifferent to all possible forms and functions also. The idea is that beneath every 'p' there must first be an a priori aesthetic (sensory) context and an a priori motive to alter that context. The consequence of the sense>motive>sense^2 relation is minimally necessary for any number, logical proposition, statement, 'thing', etc. Before anything can be said to 'exist' there must first be a capacity to 1) discern a difference between existence and non-existence, 2) make such a difference, and 3) *appreciate* having made the difference. I consider these three aspects to be different from each other in one sense and parts of the same primordial/irreducible identity in another. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
